HOMEBREW Digest #3685 Mon 16 July 2001

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Contents:
  aeration filter (The Freemans)
  Re: Gas Filtration ("Houseman, David L")
  More Shipping Beer. . . ("Galloway")
  Third Annual Blue Ridge Brew Off ("Jay and Arlene Adams")
  Deposits on bottle walls ("Dan Listermann")
  Kg of Methane and Kcalories ("Mauricio Wagner")
  Re: DWC malts (Jeff Renner)
  gas filtration ("Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies")
  Re: aeration filter ("Fred L. Johnson")
  Evaporation Rate (Brewer Bob)
  De Wolf Cosyns ("Marc Morency")
  Gas Filtration Supplies/Dishwasher Muck ("Bob Sutton")
  Brewing equipment ("Keller, Steven W.")
  So Many Beers, So Little Time! (Jimmy Overcast)
  One heck of a chest freezer conversion ("bsmnt")
  dishwashers ("Sean Richens")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 08:05:57 -0500 From: The Freemans <potsus at Bellsouth.net> Subject: aeration filter First, a 45 micron filter is hardly a bacteria filter. Williams Brewing (NAYY) http://www.williamsbrewing.com/index.html has a .2 micron that is a little more like what is needed. It ain't cheap at $5.90, but it can be used over and over. http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000Store/images/Q45.JPG Forced aeration is one of those things that is gonna cost you some money whatever way you choose to go - aquarium pump or O2 bottle - but the results of fermentation with large starters and well aerated wort can't be beat. Bill Freeman aka Elder Rat K P Brewery - home of "the perfesser" Birmingham, AL Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:43:32 -0400 From: "Houseman, David L" <David.Houseman at unisys.com> Subject: Re: Gas Filtration I bought several in-line filters for air (not to be wetted) that does filter out bacteria, etc. Don't know the micron size but it's considerably finer than 45 microns. I got mine at one of these retail medical supply stores that provide supplies to people who are homebound. They cost about a dollar apiece as I recall. I've had them a long time and reused them with my aquarium pump. Now that I'm using O2, they are on a shelf somewhere.... Dave Houseman Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:17:25 -0400 From: "Galloway" <galloway at gtcom.net> Subject: More Shipping Beer. . . Mr. Breidenbach's story reminded me of an international beer incident of my own. I sell military surplus shipping cases on ebay (among other things). This guy from France JUST had to have one. International shipping rates are ruinous and that pretty much whacked the deal. A few weeks later, Luckos was coming from France and wanted to know if I could ship the case to Arizona instead. In our conversations I learned that he was from the area of France that shares a border with Belgium ( can you see where this is going yet?). Rather then using filthy lucre to seal the deal, I suggested that the medium of exchange should be beer, more specifically, Belgian beers. He wondered what the big deal was about Belgian beers. About a week after he gets in country I find a HUGE box on my door step. WOOHOO!!! I hoisted it up and shook gently and heard, nothing. . . . What the????? I wondered. . . . I opened the box and found it shot FULL of expansion foam. It took me two hours to carve free all 32 beers from the foam. He had wrapped each bottle in tin foil and filled each "layer" with foam as he went. It was like being on an archeological dig getting those bottle out. The bottom line is, not one of them broke, and those were some of the best beers of my life. . . Don't you just love the internet?? Regards, Dave Galloway Chattahoochee, FL Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:06:38 -0400 From: "Jay and Arlene Adams" <goosepoint at teleplex.net> Subject: Third Annual Blue Ridge Brew Off Brewers and judges, The Mountain Ale and Lager Tasters of Asheville, NC, invite you to enter and judge in the Third Annual Blue Ridge Brew Off, scheduled for September 8 at Asheville Pizza and Brewing. Last year, BRBO was the largest homebrew competition in NC. This year we expect to be even bigger now that we have been selected as a qualifying event for Mid South Homebrewer of the Year. BRBO is also a qualifying event for North Carolina Brewer of the Year. We take pride in providing high quality judging and some of the best prizes of any competition in the region. In addition to high quality ribbons, prizes donated by our generous sponsors will include gift certificates from homebrew shops and yeast suppliers, subscriptions to magazines, books on brewing and beer, T-shirts, hats, glassware, grain, hops, brewing chemicals, brewing software, brewing gadgets, beer, and more. We are pleased to announce that the following companies have signed on as sponsors: All About Beer Magazine - America's foremost beer magazine Alternative Beverage - beer and wine making supplies Asheville Brewers Supply - beer and wine making supplies Asheville Pizza and Brewing - handcrafted beer, great food, movies and more Assembly Required - beer and wine making supplies Highland Brewing Company - brewing hand-crafted beer since 1994 Homebrew Adventures - beer and wine making supplies Liquid Bread - home of the OXYNATOR and CARBONATOR Logic - brewing chemicals ProMash - brewing software for the discriminating brewer White Labs - manufacturers of liquid yeast for home and professional brewers and wine makers See our website http://www.caveartstudios.com/malt/brbo3.html to download the entry package and get details on how to enter. We need judges and stewards and will buy lunch for out-of-town judges and provide overnight accommodations for as many as possible. If you are interested in judging and/or need accommodations, contact Judge Coordinator, Jay Adams, at goosepoint at teleplex.net. Please pass this announcement on to fellow brewers and judges and post to appropriate homebrew-related list serves. Hope to see you and your beer on September 8th at Asheville Pizza and Brewing. Thanks. Brian Cole Organizer, BRBO Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:06:40 -0400 From: "Dan Listermann" <dan at listermann.com> Subject: Deposits on bottle walls Every once in a while some one asks about what appears to be yeast clinging to the sides of their bottles, usually only on one side and in the same direction. The other day I observed this in one of five 3L bottles. The bottles were fully carbonated before refrigeration, so I am starting to doubt that the particles were yeast. They may have been chill haze, but only one of the five demonstrated this phenomenon. For future reference, they were on the South side of the fridge, facing the door. Dan Listermann Check out our new E-tail site at http://www.listermann.com Take a look at the anti-telemarketer forum. It is my new hobby! Return to table of contents
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:36:48 -0300 From: "Mauricio Wagner" <mwagner at alean.com.ar> Subject: Kg of Methane and Kcalories I'm using bottled Methane (15 Kg) to boile the Wort and I would like to know how many Kcalories I can get from each Kg of bottled Methane in a certain amount of time. Could some one help me in the related math expressions I'll need to use? Private messages are wellcome. >From Argentina, Best Regards Mauricio Wagner La Pagina Oficial de la Lista http://www.cerveceroscaseros.com.ar y tambien en: http://come.to/birraclub Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:16:53 -0400 From: Jeff Renner <JeffRenner at mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DWC malts Stephen Ross of "Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies" <orders at paddockwood.com> wrote: >with the possible >exception of Special-B, the DWC malts were easily replaced. With >Weyermann's new additions, even the Special-B can be approximated. > ><snip> for Special-B which the new seems to be very similar to >the new Weyermann CaraAroma (33 PPG, 110-150 SRM). Initial reports seem to >suggest that the CaraAroma may not be as 'raisiny' as the Special-B, but >this malt is so new to our listings we haven't had enough experience with it >to be absolutely certain. Has anyone else brewed with CaraAroma? I haven't, but another candidate is Briess' Extra Special Malt. From http://www.briess.com/Products/es.htm : -0-0-0-0-0-0- TYPICAL ANALYTICAL SPECIFICATIONS: Moisture 6.0 % Color* 125-135 L Flavor raisins, slight chocolate ADVANTAGES: * Extra Special Malt is used in many types of beer to provide the profound raisiny flavor notes usually associated with darker high gravity beers such as doppelbock. Extra Special Malt can be used to enhance standard or lighter gravity brews to provide a richer, more complex flavor profile. * The bread-like, raisiny, and slight chocolate flavors and aroma from Extra Special Malt are ideal for any beer style. * Extra Special Malt gives a deep red to copper color. APPLICATIONS: * For dark beer, use 3 - 5 % to provide color, flavor, and aroma. * For porter and stout, use 10 - 15 %. BARLEY VARIETIES: * AMBA (American Malting Barley Association) approved 2-Row varieties. I have a brown ale aging that I used this in, but it isn't ready for prime time yet. -0-0-0-0-0-0-0- Jeff - -- Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner at mediaone.net "One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943 Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:57:00 -0600 From: "Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies" <orders at paddockwood.com> Subject: gas filtration "Fred L. Johnson" <FLJohnson at worldnet.att.net> asks about cheap filters for use with aquarium pump aeration systems. We've been happy with an in-line replaceable 0.22 micron air filter; it has inputs for small airline hose on each side of a small disk filter. Retails for about $3.99 US. cheers, Stephen Ross -- "Vitae sine cerevisiis sugant." Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies, Saskatoon, SK, Canada orders at paddockwood.com www.paddockwood.com Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:37:20 -0400 From: "Fred L. Johnson" <FLJohnson at worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: aeration filter I apologize for the typo in the recent post regarding aeration filters. I stated 45 microns for the pore size rather than 0.45 microns. - -- Fred L. Johnson Apex, North Carolina USA Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:57:07 -0700 From: Brewer Bob <"bobo99" at notimefor.spambest.com> Subject: Evaporation Rate Can someone give me a ballpark evaporation rate for ~ 13 gallons of sweet liquor using a converted 1/2 bbl keg as a boiler and a 170K BTU propane burner turned up all the way? Setting up the new system so I need to know what my initial water requirements will be. TIA Brewer Bob Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:02:36 -0500 From: "Marc Morency" <marcmo3 at yahoo.com> Subject: De Wolf Cosyns We are working very closely with both DeWolf and our new Belgian supplier to make the switch in suppliers as smooth as possible. We anticipate we will have an excellent substitute for all of the DeWolf Cosyns products. Have no fear the Belgian brewing industry (and the North American production of Belgian Beers) will continue long into the future. Susan E Graydon Account Executive Cargill Malt - Specialty Products Group www.specialtymalts.com <http://www.specialtymalts.com> Office: 313-882-5248 Cell:313-300-7052 Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:41:06 -0400 From: "Bob Sutton" <Bob at homebrew.com> Subject: Gas Filtration Supplies/Dishwasher Muck Fred asked about a source of an appropriate affordable filter for aerating my worts... Here's one I've used... http://www.brewtek.com/aerator.html Part SP-86 for $3.90 //////////////////////////// and the dishwasher thread is back... and I suggest you keep that door closed. Unless you've dedicated your unit to brewing, it's not all that clean inside after you've emptied that last load of dishes... visibly clean, sure, but if you would swab the surfaces, you'd find out differently... And yes, you just might get away with it... minimal infection... fine taste... good head... If you heart is set on using that contrivance, then here's an AR procedure that might limit your risks. First, operate the unit empty with detergent loaded. While the cycle is running, soak your bottles in the cleaner of your choice (I use dishwashing detergent). Then rinse the bottle internals thoroughly using a bottle-jet washer. When the dishwasher cycle is complete load (inverted!) the washed/rinsed bottles and run a full cycle. Don't add detergent. It will only get trapped in your bottles. After the dishwasher cycle is complete, you have a couple options... either run the dishwasher's "heat dry" cycle, or load the washed bottles in your oven (be sure it's clean... while pizza and beer work well together, charred remnants of last night's Mexicali Supreme will impart a unique flavor to your bottles). Set the oven around 300F, and let it run for a few hours, and let the bottles cool with the oven door closed (overnight cycles work for me). Ok, I admitted it's a bit AR - and some will caution about micro-cracks forming in the heated bottles... it's never been a problem.... aaacccckkk... what was that.... oh %# at ***... gotta run... see ya... ...brewing in upstate South Carolina Bob Fruit Fly Brewhaus Yesterdays' Technology Today Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:34:43 -0500 From: "Keller, Steven W." <KellerS at missouri.edu> Subject: Brewing equipment I have been reading with interest and enjoyment the newsletter over the past several months, and was hoping to get some input on upgrading my "system". I want to move to a more permanent set-up and get out of the kitchen. With the praise for Beer, Beer, and More Beer I was reading about their "brewing sculptures", and would really appreciate input from the list as to the ease of use, practicality and cost of such systems, either from BBMB or other retailers. Thanks much! Brew On! Steven W. Keller Associate Professor of Chemistry 125 Chemistry University of Missouri Columbia, Missouri 65211 (573)884-6893 http://chem.chem.missouri.edu/ I'd rather be an optimist and a fool, than a pessimist and right." - from the movie "I.Q." Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:41:27 -0500 From: Jimmy Overcast <malibu76 at mindspring.com> Subject: So Many Beers, So Little Time! My question to all of you is what would be the best type of beer to brew, to have ready for Nov , Dec, Winter Time? I have never tried a Porter, BarleyWine, but I have tried many Stouts. I just want to try something new , something that I could brew now that will be ready by the fall or winter. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone has any good recipes, preferably All Grain send them my way. thanks alot, Jimmy Overcast Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:18:29 -0400 From: "bsmnt" <bsmntbrewr at home.com> Subject: One heck of a chest freezer conversion Brewers, One of our club members was inspired by Dan Shultz's web site on his chest freezer conversion. You can see Dan's at the following address. Have to give the idea man his due. http://www.users.qwest.net/~d2schultz/Freezer.html Now feast your eyes on this beauty! The pictures on this page are thumbnails, just click the pics for bigger versions. http://hbd.org/starcity/images/box/box.htm SWMBO told me not to get any ideas after she saw this. Bob Bratcher Roanoke, VA Star City Brewers Guild http://hbd.org/starcity Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:52:05 -0500 From: "Sean Richens" <srichens at sprint.ca> Subject: dishwashers Not all dishwashers have the optional "sanitize" boost heater, but if yours does, skip the heated dry cycle in favour of a full cycle, without detergent, in a pre-rinsed machine. Wet bottles are also easier to fill. Things die much, much faster with WET heat than with dry heat. This is the first and most important thing to learn about heat sterilization or sanitization. Moderate dry heat just dries out the bugs, which they're pretty used to. Wet heat keeps their guts in solution where the heat can cook them really good. If you don't have the water heat booster, at least pre-wet your bottles and run a quick rinse cycle before the heater comes on. The only drawback to dishwasher sanitizing is that a quick rinse under the tap doesn't clean a bottle quite as well as a regular splash of alkaline sanitizer. After a couple of years, you want to give them a good soak. Sean Richens srichens.spamsucks at sprint.ca Return to table of contents
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