HOMEBREW Digest #386 Wed 28 March 1990

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  calibrating the arrival of hops (Dick Dunn)
  Re: hops questions (dw)
  soda siphons (E-BIEV)
  soda siphons (Erik Biever)
  Re: Soda Siphons (a.e.mossberg)
  care and feeding of hops (florianb)
  Hop's (jamesb)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Mar 90 01:57:25 MST (Tue) From: hplabs!hplms2!gatech!ico.isc.com!raven!rcd (Dick Dunn) Subject: calibrating the arrival of hops I'm awaiting the arrival of the first shoots of hops as much as anyone, but frankly I don't expect them to do much while we're still getting hard frosts. (Our weather is erratic...just because we were almost in the 80's last week doesn't mean it can't freeze every night this week:-) For everyone's peace of mind, it would be nice if, when you're talking about how well your hops are doing, you'd tell us where the hell you are! Sometimes bubba at znork.tipple.com doesn't really provide the information you think it would. I had a brief interchange with someone a few weeks back; he was curious about what I had to say about hops, given his understanding that I was somewhere in Georgia. However, I'm actually in Boulder, Colorado (the Homebrew Capital of the US), which presumably made it some- what clearer. [We're probably in the minority of homebrewers who have to worry about wind as a brewing hazard, tho.] I hadn't realized that the organization part of the header doesn't necessarily make it out. So...remember to say where you are when you're talking about cultivation, temps, etc. --- Dick Dunn {ncar;ico;stcvax}!raven!rcd (303)494-0965 or rcd at raven.uucp Return to table of contents
Date: 27 Mar 90 09:25:25 EST (Tuesday) From: dw <Wegeng.Henr at Xerox.COM> Subject: Re: hops questions Mike Meyer says: >While we're talking about sprouting hops, can anyone tell me how long >they should take? I've found that it takes a year or two for hop plants to produce very well. The first year you'll get some growth, but nothing like what you'll experience the second year. You don't tell us what part of the country you live in, so it's hard to predict whether your roommate's hops should have started to come up yet. Here in Rochester NY, mine have barely started to come up. /Don Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 08:30:40 CST From: E-BIEV at vm1.spcs.umn.edu Subject: soda siphons From: Erik Biever Subject: soda siphons > I just had an idea. Will soda siphons carbonate beer? By soda siphons > I mean those bottles used to carbonate water that the three stooges keep > squirting at each other. I have a funny feeling that it will all come > out foam, but was wondering if anyone has tried it or knows for sure. If > it works, it would be great for those days when you've run out of home > brew but have 5 gallons sitting in the basement that you haven't gotten > around to bottling yet (actually, I have 10 gallons downstairs right now, > but nothing bottled :-). > > So, has anyone got a soda siphon that they have tried with beer? Did it > work? Yes, it works. I have used my soda siphon to carbonate a sample of beer before priming and bottling. I've also used it to carbonate Scotch, but that's another story. = Erik J. Biever (612) 625-9777 = = Plant Pathology Library BITNET: e-biev at uminn1 = = University of Minnesota INTERNET: e-biev at vm1.spcs.umn.edu = Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 14:57:56 GMT From: aem at mthvax.CS.Miami.EDU (a.e.mossberg) Subject: Re: Soda Siphons In digest <1990Mar27.081159.7719 at mthvax.cs.miami.edu> "Allen J. Hainer" <ajhainer at violet.waterloo.edu> writes: > So, has anyone got a soda siphon that they have tried with beer? Did it >work? Yes, I do it frequently. If the beer is reasonably carbonated already, putting it in the soda bottle and adding more CO2 does make it come out foam, at least at first. Usually if I have a warm keg and want to try some of it, I'll take out some beer and let it sit for a few minutes, then put it in the soda bottle, and add the CO2 whippet. aem - -- a.e.mossberg / aem at mthvax.cs.miami.edu / aem at umiami.BITNET / Pahayokee Bioregion Amo--ergo sum. (I love, therefore I am.) - Alma Mahler Werfel Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 10:04:03 EST From: timd at sct60a.sunyct.edu (Tim Dennison ) I have just subscribed to homebrew and would like some very basic info. I have never tried to brew any beer, ale, etc. but would very much like to. Can anyone point me towards a straight forward book on the subject? Thanks in advance for your responses. Also any ideas on where to buy ingredients, equipment, etc. Moreover, is it easier to buy mailorder, local, both? Tim Dennison Systems Administrator (whatever that means) SUNY Institute of Technology Utica, NY 13504 (315)792-7440 E-mail tim at sct60a.sunyct.edu Return to table of contents
Date: 27 Mar 90 12:34:21 PST (Tue) From: florianb at tekred.cna.tek.com Subject: care and feeding of hops Last issue, there were a couple of comments about hops: Chris Shenton asked: >Could you provide some hints? What kind of soil, how much light, etc? I >understand they're real climbers. Are you going to use a lattice, trellis, >or vertical string? Then Mike Meyer comments: >While we're talking about sprouting hops, can anyone tell me how long >they should take? My roommate planted 2 Nuggets and 4 Cascades somewhere >around 2/12 as well, and is starting to worry. The Nugget rhizomes looked >pretty meaty, with 2 or 3 buds sticking out, while the Cascades were spindly According to what I've read and experienced, the first year the plants will be weak, with each passing year producing more and more vigorous growth, analogous to grape vines. The plants I mentioned that went crazy on my front porch were three year old potted plants. I simply dug a hole about one foot deep, filled it with rich soil, stuck in the cuttings up to their necks, and doused it with water. I kept the soil moist all summer. The vines were in full sun most of the day. They need something tall to climb on, but will accept anything that happens to be in their reach, like a wall with standoffs or a rail. One of my vines snaked its way under the deck for about six feet, then wound up on to a rail and took off from there. It's really exciting to see them grow so quickly. They also provide beautiful adornments to an arbor. A friend of mine in Corvallis who doesn't brew beer uses the hops he grows as an elixer. He boils them down and saves the "broth" in the fridge. He then pours a little of it into commercial American beer to give it a "pep." Last time, I mentioned Papazain's comments about hops and dreaming. For a long time, I've suspected that there are ingredients in hops that account for part of the feeling of "well being" that comes from drinking home brew. Others have suggested this also. These days, with all the anti-drug stuff going on, I hope the government doesn't decide to do something about the "potential evils" of hops cultivation. Are hops growers taxed? Florian (who cultivates legal substances after hours) Return to table of contents
Date: Tue Mar 27 15:48:49 1990 From: microsoft!jamesb at uunet.UU.NET Subject: Hop's It's probably to late now to plant them but what i the phone # or address of someplace that I can get in on this grow your own Hop's. >From the way they are supposed to grow, they would be a perfect addition to the back of the yard, maybe I can even use them for BEER!!! JIm Broglio Microsoft *************************************************************************** ********* I haven't had sex in so long, I forget who get's tied up. ******* ********* (bumper sticker) ******* *************************************************************************** Return to table of contents
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