HOMEBREW Digest #4255 Mon 26 May 2003

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  Places (S & J)
  -S ("Patrick Hughes")
  Philosophy ("Patrick Hughes")
  Need Help on Pricing Kegging Equipment (Donald Hellen)
  Semi - newbie questions (Bill)
  sacramento beer-insiders guide please (Paulfarns)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: sjr101 at webtv.net (S & J) Subject: Places Hey All, I'll be in the Cleveland/Parma Ohio area next week. Any help with brewpubs and beer stores would be appreciated. I know the Great Lakes, Rock Bottom and Crooked River are all great! I was there last year but pretty much struck out with the bottle shops. I may also visit the Akron area. Please feel free to e-mail me off post. TIA, Scott Ross Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 08:19:05 -0500 From: "Patrick Hughes" <pjhinc at eriecoast.com> Subject: -S I hope this chili beer thread dies out soon. I will probably brew another 10 years before I become bored enough to put vegetables in my beer. -S reply in HBD#4252 to his attackers is as usual accurate, concise, to the point, and not charged with the thin skinned emotions of other opinionated HB'ers. If we attack people who state their opinions it is likely to stifle the creative thinking process and eliminate some otherwise interesting opinions. Some people can't take the kind of attacks that -S endures to postulate his opinions. -S obviously has the background [or resources] to prove his claims,opinions so it is not really postulating. Even if he doesn't they are always fun to read and usually educational. Myself ,I enjoy ,occasionally, the soapbox that HBD provides me with and am not above postulating . I don't think there is any danger of stifling -S's opinions but others might not be so self assured. Calling -S incoherent?! That's like calling the Pope a Jew. You can have the soap box back now. "I've done the math enough to know the dangers of second guessing." Maynard , Tool Patrick Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 08:29:53 -0500 From: "Patrick Hughes" <pjhinc at eriecoast.com> Subject: Philosophy Thanks to Dave Burley for the philosophy lecture. I have heard this story but it is always nice to remember what is really important. Patrick Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 16:47:34 -0400 From: Donald Hellen <donhellen at horizonview.net> Subject: Need Help on Pricing Kegging Equipment I need some ideas on how to sell my kegging equipment. I need room in the garage and am trying to simplify my life a bit by getting rid of a few things. I am not getting out of homebrewing, just getting rid of the kegging stuff and a refrigerator. I'll keep the temperature controller and use an insulated box in the wintertime to make lager beers. I'll list what I have first: 1 Phil's counterpressure bottle filler (could use the hoses cleaned or replaced, which would cost a few dollars to replace) 4 Pepsi-style kegs (I had 5, but I can't find the 5th one!) one of which has a leaky gas fitting but works fine when hooked up to the CO2 cylinder. 1- 20 lb. CO2 cylinder 1 2-stage regulator with shutoff valve 5 gas fittings 5 liquid fittings between 12 and 18 nylon gas/liquid hose clamps 1 quick-connect fitting for gas line to refrigerator 1 filter housing (and one filter if I can locate it) with fittings to connect to gas/liquid line and a fitting to backflush with garden hose 1 large side-by-side refrigerator with optional wooden platform to stand a few kegs on the bottom. Refrigerator is not midified in any way except for a small hole in the rear for the gas line, which could easily be plugged. Obviously, I can't ship the refrigerator! I don't know how to ship the CO2 cylinder or the kegs. Any ideas on how to do this and how much to assume for shipping if I list these on eBay? Should I list these separately or together? What should be sold with what? If anyone on this list is interested in buying this lot of items (with or without the refrigerator), I am willing to meet someone half-way if they are within several hours' drive of Chillicothe, Ohio if I can get a decent price out of all of this. Any suggestions on how best to sell this would be appreciated. Don Hellen Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:28:41 -0400 From: Bill <brewrat at twcny.rr.com> Subject: Semi - newbie questions I am re-starting brewing after a multi-year absence and I have a couple of basic questions. I have always brewed by boiling a gallon to a gallon and half of wort and then adding it to enough cold water to make 5 gallons in a fermenter. A lot of what I have been reading lately indicate that the preferred method seems to be boiling all 5 gallons and then using a wort cooler to quickly cool down the wort before pitching the yeast. I always thought that my beer was pretty good, but I wonder if I might see an improvement if I invest in some equipment (larger stainless steel brewpot, wort chiller). Has anyone else made this change and have you noticed any difference? Secondly, I am interested in using a small keg system. I have seen ads for both the Tap-a-Draft system and also a mini-keg system. These seem like great ways to speed up the bottling process (and stop washing more than 2 cases of bottles). Does anyone have any thoughts on these systems and their ease of use? Thanks in advance. Bill Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 19:27:32 EDT From: Paulfarns at aol.com Subject: sacramento beer-insiders guide please Beer Friends , Can anyone give me the inside information on beer in the Sacramento area ? From the 28th May till the 4th June I am visiting my in-laws in Roseville. My father-in-law is so cool that he not only encourages my beer habit but is happy to drive me from brewery to brewpub to multitap bar and he loves every minute of it. Where should we go? Any area brewclub meetings or festivals going on? Any 'must visit ' brewpubs / breweries / bars in the Roseville / Sacramento area? Any to avoid? Off-line replies probably appropriate but I will post info on any gems I find. Cheers Paul Farnsworth San Antonio Paul Farnsworth Return to table of contents
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