HOMEBREW Digest #4641 Sun 31 October 2004

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  Re: Recycle bottles and labels - tip and question! ("Craig S. Cottingham")
  Last Call- 2004 BONES Bash Competition (Bruce Millington)
  Missing the boat on yeast ranching (Francisco Jones)
  RE: Recirculation Experiments (Lou King)
  RE:  FOY Response -- Yeast "Energizer" (Bill Velek)
  re: Electric Kettle ("C.D. Pritchard")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:53:03 -0500 From: "Craig S. Cottingham" <craig at cottingham.net> Subject: Re: Recycle bottles and labels - tip and question! On Oct 29, 2004, at 17:10:59, Derek Sheehan <w7rex at comcast.net> wrote: > Now for my question: Who/how can I purchase a volume amount of bottles? > I am interested in finding a bulk supply to share with some of my > homebrewing friends. Who sells bottles in bulk amounts? What is a bulk > amount (50 cases? 100 cases? a pallet?)?? > > I have searched all over the net and can't seem to find any bottle > wholesalers. Huh. I Googled on "glass beer bottles wholesale" and got about 77K results: http://www.google.com/search?q=glass+beer+bottles+wholesale&ie=UTF -8&oe=UTF-8 A little more than half of the hits on the first page appear to be noise, but that still leaves at least three that look promising. Not to mention the sponsored links. Finally, and I'm just speculating here, if you go to your LHBS and offer to buy a whole bunch of bottles at one go, I bet you'll get a steep discount. It may not be *quite* as low as wholesale, but it may be substantially under normal retail. - -- Craig S. Cottingham craig at cottingham.net OpenPGP key available from: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7977F79C Return to table of contents
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:20:30 -0400 From: Bruce Millington <bmillington at verizon.net> Subject: Last Call- 2004 BONES Bash Competition The Brewers of the Northeast Section proudly announces the return of the BONES Bash, to be held Saturday, November 6, 2004, at the Nodding Head Brewery & Restaurant in downtown Philadelphia, PA. This will be the first leg of the Delaware Valley Homebrewer of the Year. Entries will be accepted from October 10th thru November 1st, 2004. First place winners will receive prizes. For full details, please go to: www.hbd.org/bones/ We will be using the 1999 BJCP guidelines. We are in desparate need of judges All interested judges and stewards please contact Bruce Millington at bmillington at verizon.net. Judges and stewards are to report by 8:30AM, and begin at 9:00AM. See you at the Bash! Bruce Millington Judge Coordinator Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 06:51:07 -0500 From: Francisco Jones <frandog at earthlink.net> Subject: Missing the boat on yeast ranching From HBD #4639 >Under your circumstances you did the right thing. You can store yeast >under water for longer period of time. But it is critical, as Dave >pointed out, that you wash your yeast thoroughly and remove all residual >sugars and that you store the yeast as cold as possible without freezing >them. Uh oh. Suddenly I feel like I have missed about 5 years worth of yeast ranching techniques advancement. I am still under the impression that is it best to store yeast under wort/beer. Is this not the case? Can I get longer/healtier home storage by storing under sterile water? How much did I miss? Francisco Jones Kankakee, IL Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:04:08 -0400 From: Lou King <lking at pobox.com> Subject: RE: Recirculation Experiments > From: Joshua Meekhof <jmeekhof at gmail.com> > > I started manually approximating a RIMS system. > : > What I am attempting to determine is do these systems create > a better beer? Are beers brewed with this method more > consistent? It the cost worthwhile for _ME_ if the only > advantage that I find is the automation? Joshua - If I were to amortize the cost of the RIMS system I built against any possible improvement in the quality of my beer, I would say that it is not worth the expense. However, I am happy I built this because, a) I am able to do a step mash without having to consider the amount of space needed in my mash tun for the infusions, b) I get crystal clear wort without a vorlauf recirculation, c) it was fun to build, and, d) I learned a lot about plumbing, electronics and the mechanics involved. I think I consistently make pretty good beer using my system, but since I have had great beers which were made using a zapap lauter tun (by brewers who consistently made good beer using such "low tech" systems), I don't think the system matters all that much. Of course, you would have to decide yourself if it is worth the expense for _you_ ;^) See http://www.lousbrews.info/rims.htm if you are interested in seeing my RIMS. Lou King Ijamsville, MD http://www.lousbrews.info Return to table of contents
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:10:14 -0500 From: Bill Velek <billvelek at alltel.net> Subject: RE: FOY Response -- Yeast "Energizer" In HBD #4639 (FOY-2004-Response-Last One/Yeast Nutrient/Energizer ... Forbes & Tobias indicated: "... we have never come across the term 'yeast energizer'. It is probably just another name for yeast nutrient. It is most likely to be DAP or MAP because vitamins rarely have that 'energizing' effect on yeast." The reason I had asked was because I happened upon both terms being used in the same post/thread in rec.crafts.winemaking, as follows: http://tinyurl.com/669sp Cheers. Bill Velek Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:27:55 From: "C.D. Pritchard" <cdp at chattanooga.net> Subject: re: Electric Kettle Richard (long ago..) asked about making a electric kettle and HLT using plastic pails. Two very helpful web pages on electric kettles: Ken Schwartz's: http://brewery.org/brewery/library/ElectBrKS0396.html Ron Laborde's: http://hbd.org/rlaborde/controll.htm My first electric boiler was a 6.5 gal. plastic pail with two 120 VAC, 1.5 kW elements (http://chattanooga.net/boilold/boiler.htm). It worked well considering its low cost, but I recommend using a bigger container with a longer/higher wattage heating element if it is not too much of a stretch. The control from a range which a couple of folks posted about works very well for throttling a low wattage element at 120 VAC, costs only about $15 (or $0 if liberated from a junked range) and is a snap to wire up. For larger elements, the DIY electronic controller on Ron's page works great but it does require a bit of skill with electronics to construct. A layout for a printed circuit board of his design is at http://chattanooga.net/boilnew/boilnew.htm. Someone posted that one shouldn't mount heating elements in the pot because they needed to be removed for cleaning after each use. The element mounted in my current boiler has only been cleaned-in-place by spraying it with water. The only crud on the element after around 20 boils is a thin dusty white layer which appears only after the element dries. I think it's minerals from the spraying water and don't worry about it since it's never grown in thickness and appears to disolve when wetted. YMMV with boiling wort with a post boil sg of > 1.07 (my highest sg so far). c.d. pritchard cdp at chattanooga.net http://chattanooga.net/~cdp/ Return to table of contents
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