HOMEBREW Digest #4667 Mon 06 December 2004

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  HBD EOY (Corrected) ("Pat Babcock")
  Gift giving ideas? (John Wyzkiewicz)
  Beer gas on Hefeweizen, brewers heritage (Calvin Perilloux)
  Polyclar in the boil? ("Rob Dewhirst")
  two clone requests- la rossa, taddy ("Jon Olsen")
  In the news (John Segedy)
  Pumps and More (Randy Mosher)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:28:51 -0500 From: "Pat Babcock" <pbabcock at hbd.org> Subject: HBD EOY (Corrected) Greetings, beerlings! Take me to your accountant... I went in to "finalize" the year, since I received the ISP bill for December and noticed an omission and mathematical error in the EOY statement for the HBD. Specifically, the expenditures total to 7251.23 rather than the 7131.23 shown, and the "Other" expenses were left off the list. (Surprised no- one pointed these out to me. I usually get several notes for lesser errors :o) Barring any unforseseen fubars, irresistable equipment bargains, or a rash of donations, this sheet should now accurately reflect expectations for year end. Cheers! Pat Babcock The Mathematically Challenged Troll Beneath The HBD Bridge ================================================================= HBD 2004 End Of Year Accounting (Corrected) 2003 Balance Forward: $ 2684.42 Income: $12009.00 Sponsorship $ 8685.00 Donations $ 2877.00 Commercial Hosting $ 420.00 Other Income $ 27.00 Expenditures: ($ 7251.23) Capital Equipment ($ 2437.35) Expenses Paypal ($ 76.07) ISP ($ 2526.06) Domains, Certificates ($ 167.30) Upgrades/Subscriptions ($ 199.45) Electricity Reimbursement ($ 1575.00) Other (PO Box, bad checks) ($ 270.00) Net Surplus/(Shorfall): $ 4757.77 Expected EOY Balance: $ 7442.19 Projected 2005 Expenditures: ($ 4388.36) Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:29:42 -0800 (PST) From: John Wyzkiewicz <j_wyzkiewicz at yahoo.com> Subject: Gift giving ideas? What beer-related gifts are you asking for/giving for the holidays? I am looking for ideas for all my brewing/beer appreciating friends and family. My brother-in-law is getting a Celebrator Beer News subscription (and possibly a Great Lakes Brewing News sub as well) as well as some Double Bastard and Ruination bombers. I'm asking for a grain mill, probably the Barley Crusher. As always, no affiliation, yadda, yadda, etc., etc. Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:45:53 -0800 (PST) From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com> Subject: Beer gas on Hefeweizen, brewers heritage >From HBD or Thursday., 2 Dec 2004, Stephen Cavan writes about his problem serving Hefeweizen with beer gas as opposed to CO2, the problem being specifically that the beer goes flat over time. No surprise there, and I have to agree with Dave Burley who already pointed out that beer gas is only part CO2, and so you'll only have the partial pressure component of CO2 on your beer instead of the gauge pressure. I think most beer gas is 75% N2 and 25% CO2 (look that up -- don't trust me on that). Let's pick some numbers for the carbonation of your hefeweizen and assume that it's in equilibrium at 40 F at 16 psi CO2. It's fine if your top pressure is 16 psi of pure CO2, but if it's beer gas instead, then you're actually getting a partial pressure of only 4 psi of CO2. CO2 will come out of the beer to compensate. I doubt it would be practical to jack the top pressure up to 4 x 16 psi = 64 psi! Yow, think of the beer fountain that will hit the barmaid when that jet hits the bottom of the Weissbier glass! This is why beer gas is usually used for low-carbonation ales, and definitely NOT for Weissbier. Check out http://www.mcdantim.com/beergas.htm for a bit of an explanation of beer gas. Calvin Perilloux Middletown, Maryland, USA P.S. Brewer's Heritage: This one is mostly French, then German, with some Dutch and a bit of Scottish to keep me frugal. And a Spaniard in there about 1500. But since most of these ancestors came over before the USA was even a country (and didn't even settle in the "English" part), I have to agree with Dave Harsh that unless your ancestors only recently came over, it probably doesn't mean a lot -- certainly can't mean much in regards to brewing European styles that didn't even exist when those folks caught (or were pushed onto) the boat over. Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:32:03 -0600 From: "Rob Dewhirst" <rob at hairydogbrewery.com> Subject: Polyclar in the boil? A brewing acquaintance told me they use Polyclar in the boil for clarification and to extend shelf life in kegs. The exact product used in the boil is "Polyclar Brewbrite." Is this the same exact product we traditionally use for clarifying in the fermenter? Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:01:54 -0800 (PST ) From: "Jon Olsen" <burnunit at waste.org> Subject: two clone requests- la rossa, taddy I've been hunting for all grain recipes that approximate two beers I've recently craved: Sam Smith's Taddy Porter and Moretti's La Rossa. My web searches have not yielded great results so far, so either I'm searching incorrectly (I've included google searches of site:hbd.org) or lazy, or both. Any all grain brewers out there have luck duplicating or nearly-duplicating these brews? La Rossa is the only Italian beer I've ever enjoyed, and getting more of it for less than ~$3/bottle sounds like my idea of a good time. I've seen it described as more of a doppel than a maerzen, and that makes some sense. But my memory of it includes an ineffable "spiciness" that doesn't characterize many of the doppels I've had. Samuel Smith's Taddy is, of course, right up my alley. I was thinking I liked it because it wasn't as robust and overpowering as some of the other porters available out there such as Summit or Anchor (I like a robust porter, but I don't want to brew one right now) and more clearly distinguishes itself in a field where people are constantly asking "really, what's the difference between stouts and porters anyway?" I can't peg the Taddy Porter's flavors in my head and I'm looking for advice. Feel free to reply off-list if you like, burnunit at waste.org Oh, for systems... I mash in a cooler, and use a homemade zapap lauter tun. I like to batch sparge, but if you're a fly-sparger, I can do the math on your recipe myself (with a little help from Ken Schwartz of course). Thanks in advance, Jon O Minneapolis, MN http://www.waste.org/~burnunit Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:46:44 -0500 From: John Segedy <segedy at gsinet.net> Subject: In the news FYI: In Granholm v. Heald (the Granholm, Swedenburg, and Michigan Beer cases, to be argued Dec. 7, the Supreme Court considers how much power the Twenty-First Amendment grants states to regulate the importation of alcoholic beverages. The cases deal with states that bar out-of-state companies from shipping alcohol directly to in-state customers. Such states generally require liquor distribution through licensed in-state wholesalers. The Twenty- First Amendment, which explicitly declares that transporting liquor into a state "in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited," would seem to grant states wide leeway to regulate the importation of alcohol. However, the Commerce Clause specifically grants Congress, not the states, the power to "regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several States." For centuries, courts have read the Commerce Clause as preventing states from interfering with interstate commerce. The states claim that they are simply trying to regulate the liquor market, collect all applicable taxes and make sure alcohol stays out of minors' hands, but the plaintiffs, who include liquor interests and consumers, accuse the states of protecting their local industries, in violation of the Commerce Clause. < http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/03-1116.html > Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:54:54 +0100 From: Randy Mosher <randymosher at rcn.com> Subject: Pumps and More My two cents on pumps: I can relate to the caution about not blocking the outlet on a peristaltic (which I mostly use for transferring beer). I had a bunch of people over and we're pumping out of the kettle and somebody suddenly says "Whoa!" The vinyl tubing, softened by the heat, had a swollen goiter the size of an orange, just about ready to burst. I still have the thing nailed to my wall as a reminder. No one in the recent discussion has mentioned the gear-type of magnetically coupled pumps. These use two (or three) small gears in a SS head to move the liquid. They are truly self-priming and will usually pump a hundred PSI or more and will handle hot liquids. Theoretically they should be more sensitive to chunks of grain in the hoses, but I have found this not to be a problem in practice, as it will just squish the mashed grain right on through. However, I do take measures to avoid too much chaff in the line. They're harder to find than centrifugal, but they're out there on eBay from time to time. Tuthill or Micropump are the search words to use. This has probably come up before, but these related companies carry several types of vanilla and extracts as well as many other wondrous herbs & spices: http://www.thespicehouse.com http://www.penzeys.com - --Randy Mosher http://radicalbrewing.com Return to table of contents
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