HOMEBREW Digest #5688 Sun 30 May 2010

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  Re: Homebrew Digest Donation (Pete Calinski)
  Re: HBD is struggling to  meet its meager operating expenses of approximately $3500 per year. (Josh Sled)
  Nettle Beer Recipe & HBD short on cash$$ (slaycock)
  Starter for Lacto in Berliner Weisse (Mike Eyre)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NOTE: With the economy as it is, the HBD is struggling to meet its meager operating expenses of approximately $3500 per year. If less than half of those currently directly subscribed to the HBD sent in a mere $5.00, the HBD would be able to easily meet its annual expenses, with room to spare for next year. Please consider it. Financial Projection As of 21 May 2010 Projected 2010 Budget $3505.65 Expended against projection $ 874.75 Projected Excess/(Shortfall) ($2080.54) As always, donors and donations are publicly acknowledged and accounted for on the HBD web page. Thank you Send articles for __publication_only__ to post@hbd.org If your e-mail account is being deleted, please unsubscribe first!! To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send an e-mail message with the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to request@hbd.org FROM THE E-MAIL ACCOUNT YOU WISH TO HAVE SUBSCRIBED OR UNSUBSCRIBED!!!** IF YOU HAVE SPAM-PROOFED your e-mail address, you cannot subscribe to the digest as we cannot reach you. We will not correct your address for the automation - that's your job. HAVING TROUBLE posting, subscribing or unsusubscribing? See the HBD FAQ at http://hbd.org. LOOKING TO BUY OR SELL USED EQUIPMENT? Please do not post about it here. Go instead to http://homebrewfleamarket.com and post a free ad there. The HBD is a copyrighted document. The compilation is copyright HBD.ORG. Individual postings are copyright by their authors. ASK before reproducing and you'll rarely have trouble. Digest content cannot be reproduced by any means for sale or profit. More information is available by sending the word "info" to req@hbd.org or read the HBD FAQ at http://hbd.org. JANITORs on duty: Pat Babcock (pbabcock at hbd dot org), Jason Henning, and Spencer Thomas
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:46:30 -0400 From: Pete Calinski <petec.100 at gmail.com> Subject: Re: Homebrew Digest Donation Pat Humphrey and Others said: "Please join me in donating" I'm in for 5 (minimums). Pete Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:07:08 -0400 From: Josh Sled <jsled at asynchronous.org> Subject: Re: HBD is struggling to meet its meager operating expenses of approximately $3500 per year. Like Mr. Thompson, I too bear no ill will towards the HBD administrators, and too have contributed financially in the past. I do not know of the manner and restrictions by which the mailing list is run; I support it more as an archive than as an active forum. But I question the wisdom of spending $80/mo for hosting [1] when, e.g., Dreamhost charges $9/mo. [1]: http://hbd.org/ledger_table.shtml - -- ...jsled http://asynchronous.org/ - a=jsled; b=asynchronous.org; echo ${a} at ${b} Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:05:05 -0500 (CDT) From: slaycock at discoverynet.com Subject: Nettle Beer Recipe & HBD short on cash$$ Greetings again! I have been exploring the garden in my woods for food and good stuff again and I found Nettle, as in "stinging nettle". OK, not that I have never encountered this eye opening weed before, but now I know of some of the culinary, medicinal and nutritional aspects of this God given weed and am looking for more usage of this herb (why not, I've got hundreds of pounds of it in my woods! can I smoke it too?). I've been doing some things with it in the kitchen with teas and greens. To top this plant off, I've heard of folks using it for making our favorite dish..beer! Now I want to know if any of you's have ever developed a nettle beer? I have found old recipies in books, but am looking for someone that has experienced this beer in this last decade or so. Can anybody help me with a good recipe or potential issues or formulations with working with the nettle for making beer...other than the obvious itchy aspect of this plant. Thanks for any help with this!! partII MONEY SHORTAGE I dont post often, but I do read ALL the digest's that appear on my e-mail in box. I'm not a computer geek, so I dont know all the "cool stuff" that is going on in that world or how "much better" one thing over another is. However here's what I think, I think this digest is a great forum for communicating and learning. I have never felt that my ability to communicate is stifled because of "something that we DON'T have here". There may be a cheaper method of hosting this opposed to how its being done and if that's the case, maybe its worth looking into, I know our website for our homebrew club is way cheaper than 3g's plus a year, more like a tank of gas a year. Can we have this same sort of format cheaper in todays computer world? If so can the change be made without feeling any pain? I like THIS format, I can find "chat" forum's all over the place, but this is pure unadulterated info to chew on that was not available at my original cruising place years ago "the brewery". I moved here from "the brewery" because of all the pissingandmoaning that developed over time and became the norm with many of the posts. And this behavior was a result of the "instant or live" forum format. (and in defense of "the brewery", I learned TONS in my infant years of home brewing and I am grateful for that forum and loved that forum, but it just got too petty after a while, add to that a couple blowhard "experts" that were dominating everybody's input and I was out of there, no fault of the brewery, just the neighborhood got stinky) For the most part the contributors here are normally not being jerks or condescending in how they address questions or discussions, and that is why I stay here and haven't visited "the brewery" for years. I have contributed over the years financially, but to my shame not consistently. To that end I will be sending a check again Pat, or does paypal work today? I'll figure it out. To Pat & helpers thanks for your continued commitment to keeping this thing running. I'm sure you've had plenty of moments, and extended moments ready to blow up your server and stop the madness once and for all. Cheers to you Pat and also to all those folks that are behind the lines and keeping this going! Not to mention your family that puts up with the time you burn with this HBD.. I owe you a couple beers for sure! Cheers! Steve in KC Highwater Brew Haus - -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 11:56:14 -0400 From: Mike Eyre <mikeeyre74 at gmail.com> Subject: Starter for Lacto in Berliner Weisse Hey all, I'm putting together a Berliner Weisse recipe that I plan to brew in the next few weeks. I've never done this style before, but do have some experience with other sour and wild beers. My issue I'm writing about is this: My local shop gave me (no cost) an old package of Lactobacillus that's not quite a year old.. so, it's out of date. They only had the one in stock. Surely I can make a starter with this and get it up to speed, though. The thing is, this might be the right amount, if it was fresh, for 5 gallons, but I'm doing 10.. I'm having a bit of an issue finding a good way to make a starter for lacto. I'm reading stuff about no hops in the wort to very little hops in the wort you're using for the starter. I'm figuring a low grav wort somewhere in the 1.025-ish range? Ferment times are eluding me, however.. I've heard everything from a few days to two weeks is required. What volume of starter is appropriate for Lacto for 10 gallons? I'm thinking 2 quarts-ish. is that right? Should I cool and then decant this thing when it's done, or pitch the whole thing? The rest of the recipe seems pretty straightforward.. 60/40 Pils to Wheat, hop to about 5 IBU, and pitch the lacto first and give it about two days before punching it in the face with a neutral ale strain to finish the job. That's my plan, anyway. Any other suggestions, in general, for a good sour brew? Mike Eyre mikeeyre74 at gmail.com www.mikesupsanddowns.blogspot.com Return to table of contents
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