[Cheese] homemade buttermilk

Linda Conroy rosemarygoddess at moonwiseherbs.com
Mon Feb 6 13:16:49 EST 2006


I make cultured butter and then use the resulting 
buttermilk to bake, cook etc with. It is the best!  I 
use a culture called piima to culture the cream-the 
buttlermilk is light and creamy. I made a delicious 
avacado -buttermilk dressing recently and was that 
ever yummy. You can also use buttermilk from the 
store as the culture  for your butter and buttermilk. 
Leave a few TBS sit in cream at room temperture 
until it thickens (1-2 days), churn your butter and 
you get two cultured products that are delicous and 
help to promote digestion!! 
Happy Cheese Making
Linda
www.moonwiseherbs.com>

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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 01:23:07 -0500
> From: Erica Schechter 
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> I'm thinking about making my own buttermilk, as I 
love homemade ranch
> dressing. Is it significantly better than the 
storebought stuff? Or
> should I save the effort?
> 
> --Erica
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> Hi Erica,
> 
> I chopped up the cranberries finely and added 
some to the cheese then rough
> chopped the cashews. I rolled the chevre ball 
into a mixture of both and
> wrapped it up. I found it to be very mild in flavor 
but maybe after a few
> days it would be stronger. I think too I will add 
some cranberry juice to
> the cheese to give a little more flavor.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bev & John
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> From: Jack Schmidling <arf at mc.net>
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> Erica Schechter wrote:
> > I'm thinking about making my own buttermilk, 
as I love homemade ranch
> > dressing. Is it significantly better than the 
storebought stuff? Or
> > should I save the effort?
> 
> Good question when you consider how good 
Cool Whip is.
> 
> However, I think you will find that commercial 
buttermilk is as far 
> removed from the real thing as Cool Whip is from 
whipped cream.
> 
> Traditional butter milk is the liquid and solids left 
after cream is 
> churned into butter.  The commercial stuff is an 
industrial concoction 
> made from by products of the industry... 
powdered milk, whey again, 
> skimmed milk and a culture.  Read the 
ingredients on that label to get 
> the idea.
> 
> I never cared for the stuff so I can not offer an 
opinion on the taste 
> but I would be interested is hearing the results of 
a comparison.
> 
> js
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:01:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: dean crabtree 
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> Subject: Re: [Cheese] Buttermilk
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> Erica:
>    
>   I make cultured buttermilk.  I use it in making 
buttermilk white bread, buttermilk biscuits, as the 
liquid for marinating chicken before frying (yes, we 
still eat white bread and fried chicken in Texas), 
and also for ranch dressing.
>    
>   I even occasionally drink a small juice glass of 
it.  When I was a child, my grandfather drank a 
juice glass of it every night.  He said it aided 
digestion.
>    
>   Homemade is better.  It has better flavor, and it 
increases the oven spring of the baked goods.  
Homemade is a lot cheaper too.  As far as effort 
goes, it is probably the easiest cultured dairy 
product to make.
>    
>   I use Fankhauser's directions, and use 
store-bought whole milk.  He uses his own goats' 
milk.
>    
>   HTH,
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>   Dean C.
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:06:56 -0500
> From: Erica Schechter 
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> Jack,
> 
> Thanks for the tip :) However, I'm planning on 
making cultured
> buttermilk with either nonfat or 1% milk. I make a 
healthy ranch
> dressing with a combination of plain nonfat 
yogurt and 1% buttermilk.
> So I don't know...maybe it will be similar to the 
commercial version?
> In any case, I think I'll give it a shot...I need to 
order more
> rennet, anyway ;)
> 
> --Erica
> 
> On 2/6/06, Jack Schmidling <arf at mc.net> wrote:
> > Erica Schechter wrote:
> > > I'm thinking about making my own buttermilk, 
as I love homemade ranch
> > > dressing. Is it significantly better than the 
storebought stuff? Or
> > > should I save the effort?
> >
> > Good question when you consider how good 
Cool Whip is.
> >
> > However, I think you will find that commercial 
buttermilk is as far
> > removed from the real thing as Cool Whip is 
from whipped cream.
> >
> > Traditional butter milk is the liquid and solids 
left after cream is
> > churned into butter.  The commercial stuff is an 
industrial concoction
> > made from by products of the industry... 
powdered milk, whey again,
> > skimmed milk and a culture.  Read the 
ingredients on that label to get
> > the idea.
> >
> > I never cared for the stuff so I can not offer an 
opinion on the taste
> > but I would be interested is hearing the results 
of a comparison.
> >
> > js
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:40:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: dean crabtree 
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> Subject: [Cheese] Report on my cheesey 
experiment (was Molds (sorry,
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> About that experimental polypro set up that I tried; 
I said that "I'd let ya'll know if it worked out or . . . "   
The answer is ?Or . . .?
>    
>   My primitive set up is based on the Fias Co 
Farms plan (did they really mean to name their 
place "fiasco"?) and with the larger alignment 
holes of the top board, it is inadequate for the task 
of pressing greater than 50#.  Too much play, too 
much wobble.  I stopped at 90#, and this morning 
at about half way through the 24 hour pressing, the 
cheese had an uneven lean, so I flipped and 
redressed it and hopefully when I get home tonight 
it will have settled back into a decent looking 
wheel.  The "feel" of the cheese this morning has 
me thinking -- like thinking hasn't bit me in the a** 
before -- this will be just fine for the cheese.  Jack's 
6" press already has a 100# spring, and I have 
been trying to reinvent the wheel.
>    
>   On a happier note, I need to get some dig pix of 
my little baby stiltons to share.  They are half 
proportioned (but not half sized) little stilton 
wheels.  4"diameter x 6"  A normal stilton is 
8"diameter x 12"  As they say in Austin:  they're cute 
as a button.  I have started to leave them in the 
mold sandwich (4" pvc) for five days, flipping twice 
daily, before de-hooping and smoothing them.  I 
have also started to add a small amount of the 
mild lipase enzyme (I get from Leener's) which 
adds a nice flavor note to these blues.
>    
>   All the best,
>    
>   Dean C.
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