[Cheese] Cheese Digest, Vol 5, Issue 28

Linda Conroy rosemarygoddess at moonwiseherbs.com
Sat Jan 28 12:17:29 EST 2006


I regularly, make 30 minute mozarella. I have altered the recipe to use 8TBS of lemon juice per gallon of milk instead of citric acid, I also use farm fresh (raw) milk: which stretches and is smoother than any I have tried to make with store bought orgnaic low heat pasteurized milk. Also the professionals do not use a microave and neither do I. I heat the salted weigh whey to 175 degrees(which is also mentioned in Home Cheese Making by Ricki Carrol)and I dip the curds in at least 5 times and stretch like taffy. Works every time. I have recently been pressing this cheese, which makes it more grateable and tomorrow plan to smoke a batch...yum. 

Linda Conroy
www.moonwiseherbs.com

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>    1. The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't (Erica Schechter)
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>    3. Re: The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't (Dehaven James W)
>    4. Re: The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't (Jack Schmidling)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:03:09 -0500
> From: Erica Schechter <erica.schechter at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Cheese] The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't
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> So I tried Ricki Caroll's recipe for 30-minute mozzarella. If you are
> unfamiliar with this, the recipe is shown here:
> http://www.cheesemaking.com/includes/modules/jWallace/ChsPgs/1Mozz/Index.html
> 
> I know that the curds must be 145 degrees to stretch. Fresh out of the
> microwave, the curds pulled themselves. However, they cooled off
> rather quickly. I did remember to knead the curds to distribute the
> heat before stretching. They just kept cooling off. I reheated several
> times. I got the curds to a point where they were opaque and shiny,
> but they never stretched very far.
> 
> I wonder, did I do something wrong? I only deviated from the recipe in
> that I added a bit of calcium chloride to my store-bought milk. Or is
> microwave mozz just unreliable? Did I ruin it by microwaving the curds
> a whole bunch of times?
> 
> Thanks,
> Erica
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:08:50 -0600
> From: Jack Schmidling <arf at mc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cheese] The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't
> To: "The Cheese Makers' Digest" <cheese at hbd.org>
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> Erica Schechter wrote:
> > So I tried Ricki Caroll's recipe for 30-minute mozzarella. If you are
> > unfamiliar with this, the recipe is shown here:
> > http://www.cheesemaking.com/includes/modules/jWallace/ChsPgs/1Mozz/Index.html
> > 
> > I know that the curds must be 145 degrees to stretch. Fresh out of the
> > microwave, the curds pulled themselves. However, they cooled off
> > rather quickly. 
> 
> 
> Well, her pictures can't lie, I guess but I have never gotten Mozz to 
> stretch like that and I did it the hard way.
> 
> I have never used citric acid either and that simplifies thing greatly.
> 
> The key is temp.  It must be in the range you mentioned and it cools off 
> very fast.  Real Mozz is made in 100 lb balls and heated in 170F water 
> which makes it a lot easier to maintain 145F in the cheese.
> 
> Did you check the temp with a probe to determine that it really was what 
> you wanted?
> 
> pH is important also but if you acidified it, that should take care of 
> itself.
> 
> It also seems to help if you refrigerate the curds overnight and heat 
> and pull it the next day.
> 
> Other than that, good luck.  The good news is, Mozz is a pretty boring 
> tasting cheese when made with cow milk so there is not much point in 
> making it at home other than for the drill.
> 
> js
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 06:03:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dehaven James W <jiladeh at ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cheese] The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't
> To: "The Cheese Makers' Digest" <cheese at hbd.org>
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> Jack, you raise an interesting point; so which cheeses are worth making at home and which aren't?
> 
> Jack Schmidling <arf at mc.net> wrote:  Erica Schechter wrote:
> > So I tried Ricki Caroll's recipe for 30-minute mozzarella. If you are
> > unfamiliar with this, the recipe is shown here:
> > http://www.cheesemaking.com/includes/modules/jWallace/ChsPgs/1Mozz/Index.html
> > 
> > I know that the curds must be 145 degrees to stretch. Fresh out of the
> > microwave, the curds pulled themselves. However, they cooled off
> > rather quickly. 
> 
> 
> Well, her pictures can't lie, I guess but I have never gotten Mozz to 
> stretch like that and I did it the hard way.
> 
> I have never used citric acid either and that simplifies thing greatly.
> 
> The key is temp. It must be in the range you mentioned and it cools off 
> very fast. Real Mozz is made in 100 lb balls and heated in 170F water 
> which makes it a lot easier to maintain 145F in the cheese.
> 
> Did you check the temp with a probe to determine that it really was what 
> you wanted?
> 
> pH is important also but if you acidified it, that should take care of 
> itself.
> 
> It also seems to help if you refrigerate the curds overnight and heat 
> and pull it the next day.
> 
> Other than that, good luck. The good news is, Mozz is a pretty boring 
> tasting cheese when made with cow milk so there is not much point in 
> making it at home other than for the drill.
> 
> js
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:22:41 -0600
> From: Jack Schmidling <arf at mc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cheese] The 30-minute mozzarella that wasn't
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> Dehaven James W wrote:
> > Jack, you raise an interesting point; so which cheeses are worth making at home and which aren't?
> 
> That is a personal choice but the reasons to make cheese at home are:
> 
> 1.  It's fun.
> 2,  It's cheaper.
> 3.  It tastes better.
> 
> #1 is easy and just a matter of opinion.
> #2  requires your own cow or specializing in very expensive cheeses like 
> Stilton.
> #3  unlikely unless you have access to a high quality cow or compare to 
> inexpensive production cheeses.
> 
> Guess it boils down to #1 for most of us.
> 
> js
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